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Are we cool with chat GPT generated answers on this forum? I find this extremely annoying and i would like to check the vibe.

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Sometimes I wish people would put their posts through chatGPT first, or at least ask GPT if they even make sense.

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as one who try to figure out answers in chat gpt, he is really really really bad with helping on three js.
that’s how I get to here, to get real answers from people

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I actually get some good stuff outta chatgpt, but its usually a lot of edit/rewrite to make things work. But it’s pretty fantastic for bootstrapping projects. Especially for new domains that you haven’t explored before. Good way to dodge a lot of the newbie landmines.

The downside is, if you are really a newbie, its super easy to get way ahead of yourself, and then get stuck, because you don’t even know how to ask the right questions. So I think its a net positive.

r.e. chatGPT for threejs, I actually get a lot of good value out of it.
It knows most of the advanced stuff really well… it knows GLSL, rendertargets, etc. It’s way better than stackoverflow.

AI is rad. Sure it’s overhyped, and its easy to read too much into it, or overestimate it, but its also an equalizer.

People said the same things about the internet, but I’ll be damned if I enjoyed paying 50 bucks for hardcover graphics programming books back in the day.

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I think there should be some sort of flag to outline gpt generated content, I don’t think banning is the way to go but a detection bot that tags content pasted from gpt as “AI generated” would give enough indication to people reading posts as well as deter anyone who jumps straight into answering posts with gpt content marked up as thier own answer…

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Generally, I would not care about ChatGPT (or any other AI) replies if they are clearly tagged/marked as AI generated.

What irritates me more, is posting ChatGPT generated code and then saying “this is my code, but it is not working, please help me fix it”.

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posting chatGPT answers here as a solution that one haven’t tested byself is counterproductive!

chatGPT can only solve simple things and constantly fails with more demanding topics.

And what’s more! chatGPT doesn’t know anything about the three.js node system and WebGPU in three.js and then makes up lots of nonsense answers.

Therefore, chatGPT is useful, but anyone who copies questions from users and pastes them into chatGPT and then blindly suggests the result here as a solution should be warned, because that is no help but often just misleading.

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Leaving this here if anyone fancies implementing a content checker…

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I don’t see GPT content as an issue unless its literally automated bots generating buggy answers.

There’s also a language concern. I think there’s a non negligable % of users that use GPT and translation services to reformulate stuff from their native languages, so they can participate in this primarily english discourse and I can’t really fault them for that.
I also don’t think any content checking solution will work bc it will be obsolete with a few prompt tweaks/next version of GPT.

If we really have plateued on generative models, and they don’t continue to improve, then it’s worth having a conversation about it… but until then, fighting it is a waste of energy imo. You can’t prove it’s GPT’ed without some kind of voight kampf test.

Also… chatGPT is trained on all of us so it’s knowlege of threejs is really a reflection of the community. something something robot overlords…

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I agree with manthrax.
As one who using chatgpt for develop, I think chatgpt is useful for three.js.
But I should check and test again, fix and update many things from it.
Anyway chatgpt is made from human and leart from human, too.
This is just my opinion.

Dang if someone is literally generating code using GPT, he or she needs to upgrade to Copilot its way better :joy:. I mean GPT is there to make you content more refined, if let’s say someone is using it to make their own content better than I think he or she is using it correctly, that’s what AI is made for after all. But completely generating answers from GPT and using not even a single brain cell is a very idiotic approach.

There are many posts on this forum with codes that have AI generated comments included in them, I use AI myself for generating code too but I still make it more optimised and better by using my own brain.

I too strongly agree with manthrax sometimes asking the question to the AI gives you the answer that you need instead of making a new post on the forum. Look at the bright side you just saved yourself loads of time and now you can take a peaceful sleep instead of having the nightmare of the incomplete code.

Hint: Do say Hi to the AI’s so that you can get a free vacation when they capture the world :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I think this is less about using gpt for guidance and hints towards learning as an individual, as anyone can and should access gpt for basic answers, more about the recent influx and spamming of gpt answers (which have at times been completely misguiding in themselves) on to this forums posts… If someone needs advice from gpt they can go to openAi’s or anthropics website to use it for free.

people come to this forum for human to human sharing and learning as an abundant resource of technical knowledge and skill within a friendly and inviting community, there is literally no need to post AI generated content here as there are a good amount of very well versed devs who interact regularly and know (for the time being) a hell of a lot more about three js and webgl specifically…

And yes, even without tools such as this the more attuned visitor can pretty much see what’s been ai gen and what’s not…

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Thanks for your reply.
Exactly right.
I think so.
But we can use gpt to improve and upgrade our code knowledge.

That’s exactly what I am pointing at, improving the code with the help of AI and using it to solve little problems is a good practice and AI is there to do that. But getting jobs based on GPT( which I have seen ) is insane, begging others to give them the solution to something AI can’t help is not good.

At this point, the person is just relying on the AI rather than using his own brain.

I’m fine with it for the lazy questions, where the author clearly hasn’t even bothered typing their question into google or thinking about it for more than half a second.

Is this something that you can just tick a check box in a config of this forum? If not, what do we do when a thousand people appear tomorrow, all pasting from chatgpt?

You open a thread and it’s like a 100 posts that go :

Certainly, I can…

Or

What you asked for is indeed hard.

This is what im asking about.

To be clear, i am not asking “Is chatgpt useful for you when working with three.js” i dont care. For me its useful, again i dont care.

But reading these posts is extremely annoying. If i want to talk to ai, i will go to chatgpt or claude or something.

I think the WTF aspect is the thing that annoys me the most. WHY?

WHY would anyone do this? What is the point?

I don’t see your point. Sure maybe when someone is asking questions and they make little sense, AI could help.

What im talking about is this:

I think it would be marginally acceptable if we designate @Rex_Dev as our “go to chatgpt and paste answers here” person. I’m concerned if tomorrow a dozen people join that do this. The day after a hundred, and so on.

Why then have a forum at all? Why not just put a big notification when people click “post” that says “hey go use chatgpt”? Like what is the point of having the forum be a middleman between users and chatgpt?

I think you’re wrong here, AI is just statistics. We can statistically look at the posts of this one person and see that one, like you pointed out struggles with English and grammar, and the other sounds exactly like every single answer and LLM has given you.

Thanks for your perspective! I agree that using tools like Copilot and GPT can significantly enhance productivity and help refine content. However, it’s crucial to balance AI assistance with personal input and critical thinking to ensure the quality and originality of the work.

While GPT can provide quick answers and suggestions, it’s essential for users to review and optimize the generated content. This practice not only helps in learning but also ensures that the solutions are tailored to the specific context of the problem.

It’s interesting to see how different people use AI tools in their workflows. Some rely heavily on them for initial drafts, while others use them more sparingly, focusing on refining and optimizing the output. Both approaches have their merits, and it’s up to the individual to find what works best for them.

I also agree with the notion of saving time by asking AI for help, as long as it doesn’t replace the learning process. After all, understanding the concepts and logic behind the code is crucial for growth as a developer.

Let’s continue to use these tools wisely and maintain a balance between AI assistance and our own expertise. And yes, let’s stay on good terms with the AIs – you never know what the future holds! :smile: